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Archibald Prentice of Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland

Archibald Prentice of Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland

By Linus Joseph Dewald Jr., Editor
Summer 2002 and Revised 7 Jan 2014

Update of 7 Mar 2009: There is a good chance that he is the son of James Prentice and Marion Waddell who are #4.31 in our Fall 2000 article entitled John Prentice, The Laird of Stone.

With the valued help of Christine Hadden containing information from the North Lanarkshire Cemetery Dept. on burials at the Old Manse Cemetery, we are helping Alison Sullivan in tracing her Prentice roots. Here is what we have so far:

1. Archibald Prentice. The 1851 census in West Calder shows him as a retired farmer, b. c. 1767, Carluke. (The 1841 census says b. c. 1771.) His 1841 address was Back of Moss, West Calder. He apparently was a widower and was living with his daughter, Agnes, and her son, Absalom Cannedy (b. c. 1844, West Calder) and a graddaughter, Janet Cadden (b. c. 1845, "N R, Renfrewshire).

He m. Janet Graham. Archibald might be the same person as the Archibald Prentice shown in the (1851?) Cambusnethan census as age, 72, living by himself. They had 1 or more children, including:

  1. Archibald Prentice, chr. 12 Apr 1808, Cambusnethan. . . . . . [20]
  2. Hugh Prentice, b. c. 1810. . . . . . . . . . . . . [30]
  3. Agnes Prentice, b. c. 1814 in Cambusnethan, and d. 19 Jan 1901, Whitburn (per Jane Howat, email, 28 Sep 2011). Agnes' parentage is confirmed in her death certificate. Agnes m. David Tweedie on 31 Dec 1852 at West Calder but prior to this she had a son, Absalom Kennedy.
    In the 1851 census Agnes is living with her father, Archibald, a retired farmer, at Back Moss, West Calder with her son Absalom and David Tweedie (who was described as a weekly lodger). Archibald is said to be 84 and b. c. 1767 in Carluke. On the basis that this is the right Archibald, then he is also at Back Moss, West Calder in the 1841 census where (aged 70) he is living with Janet Prentice (aged 60) and John Prentice (aged 20).
  4. Janet Prentice, b. c. 1822 in West Calder (per Moira Sullivan, citing Janet's death certificate) and d. 9 Jan 1892 in Greenock. Janet m. Thomas Cranston on both 7 Aug 1847 in Lanark and on 8 Aug 1847 in West Calder, probably their respective parishes. Thomas was b. c. 1817 in Carnwath and d. 24 Mar 1880 in Greenock. Thomas was a teacher of navigation. Known children (per Moira Sullivan, email, 24 & 29 Dec 2002):
    1. David Cranston, chr. 17 Dec 1848, Lanark. David m. Marion Auld in Shanghai and had 8 surviving children, including Thomas Prentice Cranston.
      (David is Moira's ancestor. By email of 8 Feb 2003, Moira advises that her Canston line married a Paton and tracing that lineage upwards gets her to John Scott and Grizzel/Grace Prentice who appear in our Spring 2003 issue about John Prentice of Carluke.)
    2. Thomas Cranston, b. 20 Nov 1856, Greenock. He reached adulthood.
    3. Archibald Cranston, b. 7 Oct 1859 and d. 28 Sep 1860, Greenock.
    4. Janet/Jessie Graham Cranston, b. 11 Sep 1861, She m. Thomas Ratcliffe Jacobs and had 4 children.
  5. John Prentice, b. 1823, Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire. . . . . . . . . [15]

15. John Prentice, b. 1823, Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire (per Ancestry.com) or b. 1817, Whitburn, Mid Lothian and d. 21 Mar 1866, Whitburn, or an ag. lab., b. c. 1821 per the 1841 West Calder census.

He m. Elizabeth Watson. She was b. 1819 Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire, and d. 17 Feb 1888, Bathgate, Linlithgowshire.She was the dau. of John Watson (b. 1791) and Janet Craig (b. 1795). Children (per Ancestry.com):

  1. John Prentice, b. 1847, Whitburn, Linlithgow or West Calder, and d. 1914, Lassewade. 1891 in Whitburn. He m. 1st Margaret Watson in 1870, Carnwath. She was b. 1843 in Lanark, Lanarkshire, and d. 1900 in Holytown, Lanarkshire. An Ancestor Chart for her can be found at Ancestry.com.
    They had 1 or more children, including:
    1. John Hannah Prentice, b. c. 1877, Bothwell, Lanarkshire. . . . . . . [15.1]
    2. Elizabeth "Lizzie" Prentice, b. c. 1886, Leith, Edinburghshire. 1891 in Whitburn.
  2. Janet Prentice, b. 1850, West Calder, Midlothian.
  3. Archibald Prentice, b. c. 1851, West Calder, Edinburghshire. . . . . . . . [15.2]
  4. Mary Prentice, b. c. 1856, Cambusnethan. 1881 in Carnwath, Lanarkshire.
  5. Hugh Prentice, b. c. 1858, Carnwath, Lanarkshire. He m. Agnes, b. c. 1865, Blantyre, Lanarkshire.
    1. Jane Prentice, b. c. 1889, Uphall, Linlithgowshire.
    2. Elizabeth Prentice, b. c. 1891, Broxburn, Linlithgowshire. 1901 in Calderhead, Lanarkshire.
    3. Susan Prentice, b. c. 1894, Shotts, Lanarkshire. 1901 in Calderhead, Lanarkshire.
    4. Absalom Prentice, b. c. 1897, Shotts, Lanarkshire. . . . . . . [15.3]
    5. Robert Prentice, b. c. 1899, Shotts, Lanarkshire.
  6. Absalom Kennedy Prentice, b. c. 1860-1, Carnwath. He m. Janet Mck Prentice, b. c. 1853, Carnwath.
    Children (per Ancestry.com ) 1901 in Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire, census:
    1. Janet Prentice, b. c. 1889, Carnwath. 1901 at home.
    2. Hannah Prentice, b. c. 1894, Carnwath. 1901 at home.
    3. John Prentice, b. c. 1896, Carnwath. 1901 at home.

15.1 John Hannah Prentice, b. c. 1877, Bothwell, Lanarkshire, and d. 25 Mar 1944, Kirkaldy. 1891 census in Whitburn.

He m. 1st Jeanie Jane Scobie in 1904. She was b. 19 May 1885, Railway Station, Dunning, Perth, and d. 8 Aug 1915, Steelend, Dunfermline. An Ancestor Chart for her can be found at Ancestry.com.

  1. Melville Stark Prentice 1905
  2. Margaret Prentice 1908
  3. Catherine Prentice 1909
  4. John Alexander Hannah Prentice, b. 30 Sep 1911, Holytown, Glasgow, and d. 1971, Glasgow. He m. 1st Mary O'Donnell in 1935, Glasgow. She was b. 25 Dec 1913, Glasgow, and d. 23 Mar 1951, Glasgow shettleston. Her Ancestor Chart can be found at Ancestry.com.
    1. John Prentice, b. 1936, Possil Park, Glasgow, and d. that same year, 1936, Milton, Glasgow.
    2. Rose Ann Prentice, b. 15 Sep 1937, Possil Park, Glasgow, and d. Nov 1995, Lancashire. She m. Mr. Ruderham on 7 Nov 1959, Manchesgter, Lancashire, England.
      1. Living Ruderham
      2. Living Ruderham
      3. Ada Marie Ruderham 1956 - 2005
      4. Walter Henry Ruderham 1957 - 1960
      5. Linda Ann Ruderham 1958 - 1999
    John m. 2nd Ellen Banks in 1952, Glasgow. She was b. 9 Nov 1907, Bridgeton, Glasgow, d. 1977. They had a dau,. who m. Mr. Jack.

    John m. 2nd (3rd?) Margaret Catherine Bell on 14 Aug 1916, St. Giles, Edinburth. She was b. 9 Apr 1881, Roxburgh, and d. 16 Mar 1959, Kirkcaldy. She she had previously m. Alexander McIntyre Strachan on 30 Jun 1913, Edinburgh and had 1 son and 3 daughters. She also had a son by a previous relationship: George Reid ((1912-1985).
    Son of John and Margaret:

    1. Alexander Hannah Prentice, b. 1917, Dunfermline, Fife, and d. 1976, Buckhaven.
  5. William Scobie Prentice, b. 1914, Lasswade, Midlothian, and d. 17 Feb 1917, Steelend, Dunfermline.
  6. James Scobie Prentice, b. 311 Jul 1915, Steelend, Dunfermline, and d. 26 Apr1991, Stirling. He m. Janet McQueen, 18 Nov 1939, Edinburgh. They had 3 daughters.

John m. 2nd Margaret Catherine Bell on 14 Aug 1916, St. Giles, Edinburgh. She was b. 9 Apr 1881, Roxburgh, and d. 16 Mar 1959, Kirkcaldy. Her Ancestor chart can be found at Ancestry.com.

  1. Alexander Hannah Prentice, b. 1917, Dunfermline, Fife, and d. 191716, Buckhaven.

15.2 Archibald Prentice was b. c. 1851 in West Calder (per Jan Howat, email, 7 Jan 2014, she relates that his parentage is confirmed by his marriage certificate).

He m . Mary Stevenson (daughter of David Stevenson and Jeanie Adams) on 31 Dec 1875. Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire, Scotland per Jane Howat, above. Archibald and Mary emigrated to Australia on board the S/S Kincardineshire arriving in Brisbane on 10 November 1883.
They had 1 or more children, including:

  1. John McDougall Dillon Prentice, b. 29 Apr 1884, Queensland, Australia (Ref: 1884/B032404).

15.3 Absalom Prentice, b. 4 Aug 1897, Haywood, Carnwath, or c. 1897, Shotts, Lanarkshire, and d. Feb 1968, Motherwell, Lanarkshire.

He m. Marjory Cameron Gordon on 26 Sep 1924, Faulthouse, West Lothian. She was b. 24 Mar 1899, Lochgiphead, Argyle, Scotland and d. 23 Mar 1982, Law Hosp., Lanarkshire. Her Ancestor Chart: Ancestry.com.

  1. (dau.) Prentice.
  2. Hugh Prentice, b. 5 May 1931, Hartwood, Shotts, Lanarkshire, and d. Sep 1997, Forfar, Angus. He m. Miss McDonald in 1955, Forres, Morrayshire, Scotland.
    1. (son) Prentice. He m. Miss Downie and had a son .
    2. (dau.) Prentice. She m. Mr. Sangster.
    3. Marjory Prentice, b. 10 Jan 1933, Hartwood, Shotts, and d. 15 Aug 1999, Law Hospital, Carluke. She m. Stanners Paul (1933-1988) and had a son.

20. Archibald Prentice, chr. 12 Apr 1808, Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. (Ref: British Isles Vital Records Index and FHL Film 102891, 1741 - 1819). He is likely the same Archibald Prentice shown in the 1851 Cambusnethan census as age 42 and b. Cambusnethan, with his wife and family. He appears also in the 1861 census in Bathgate, West Lothian, where he was caled a "Joiner (journeyman)" (Jennifer/Jenny Drennan's email of 25 Jul 2017 relates that "[Archibald] sadly dies young in a circular saw accident, very gruesome! Leaving his wife Agnes Hamilton with 6 young children. Absolutely tragic.")

He m. Agnes Hamilton on 7 Jun 1835, Hamilton (per IGI). She was b. c. 1816, Hamilton, Lanarkshire.

  1. Archibald Prentice, b. c. 1836, Hamilton. He appears in the 1861 census in Bothwell, Lanarkshire, with his wife, Mary, b. c. 1834, Hamilton.
    1. Marian/Marrion Prentice, b. c. 1857, Bothwell. At home in Bothwell in 1861 census.
    2. George Prentice, b. c. 1861, Bothwell. At home in Bothwell in 1861 census.
  2. Andrew Prentice, b. c. 1838, Hamilton. At home in 1861 census in Bathgate.
  3. Isabella Prentice, b. c. 1839, Hamilton. Not home in 1861.
  4. Janet Prentice, b. c. 1842, Hamilton. At home in 1861 census in Bathgate.
  5. Hugh Prentice, b. c. 1844, Hamilton. At home in 1851. Not home in 1861.
  6. Elizabeth H. Prentice, b. c. 1847, Bothwell. At home in 1861 census in Bathgate.

Living with Archibald's family in 1861 was a grandson, Archibald Prentice, b. c. 1859, Bothwell, Lanarkshire.

30. Hugh Prentice was b. 22 Mar 1810, Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland (per FHL Film 102891, 1810 - 1810), died 12 Jun 1891 and was and bur. 15 Jun 1891, age 81, and then a widower. Hugh was the son of Archibald Prentice and Janet Graham. His occupation at that time was that of a joiner and he lived at 11 Margaret Place in Larkhall. 1851 and 1861 census in Bothwell, Lanarkshire, with his wife and family.

He m. Janet Smellie. Janet was b. c. 1817, Cambusnethan, daughter of James Smellie and Janet Muir, died 16 Jun 1886, age 69, and was bur. 19 May 1886. The cemetery record indicates that at the time of her death she was a housewife, living at 11 Margaret Place, Larkhall. (Moira Sullivan has a copy of Hugh's death certificate confirming all of the foregoing information.)
Children of Hugh and Janet included:

  1. Janet Prentice, b. c. 1843, Cambusnethan. (per 1851 census). . . . [40]
  2. Agnes Prentice, b. c. 1844, Cambusnethan. (per 1851 census)
  3. Archibald Prentice, b. c. 1846. . . . . . . [50]
  4. James Prentice, b. c. 1848, Bothwell (per 1851 census). He d. 12 Aug 1860 and is buried near his parents at the Manse Burial Ground.
  5. Hugh Prentice, b. c. 1850, Bothwell. (per 1851 census). At home in 1861 in Bothwell.
  6. Jane Prentice, b. c. 1854, Bothwell. At home in 1861 Bothwell census.
  7. Alexander Prentice, b. 17 Jun 1857, Bothwell, Lanarkshire (per Christine Hadden, email, 4 Jul 2016)). Not home in 1861 and perhaps deceased.

40. Janet Main Prentice, b. c. 1843, Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire, and d. 25 Aug 1922 at Woodview, High Blantyre Road, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, age 80. (Ref: Christine Hadden, email, 4 Jul 2016)

Janet m. Alexander Inglis on 31 Dec 1861 in Bothwell. On that 1881 census date he was 43, indicating he was b. c. 1847-48. Alexander was a Colliery Engine Keeper.
Children (per IGI):

  1. Janet Smellie Inglis, b. 18 Dec 1862 Bothwell, Lanark, Scotland
  2. Margaret Yeats Inglis, b. 14 Sep 1864 Bothwell, Lanark, Scotland
  3. Agnes Inglis, b. 28 Jun 1866 Dalziel, Lanark, Scotland
  4. John Inglis, b. 7 Aug 1868 Dalziel, Lanark, Scotland
  5. Hugh Prentice Inglis, b. 2 Oct 1870 Dalziel, Lanark, Scotland
  6. Alexander Inglis, b. 1 Feb 1873 Dalziel, Lanark, Scotland
  7. Jeannie Prentice Inglis, b. 5 Nov 1877, Shieldmuir, Lanark. . . . [60]
  8. Elisabeth Inglis, b. c. 1880-81 (age 1 in 1881 census).

50. Archibald Prentice, b. c. 1846. He was bur. 25 Dec 1916, at the age of 70. At the time of his death he was a locomotive superintendent and lived on Tessie Street, Shawlands, Glasgow. (per 1851 census and cemetery record).

He m. Margaret.
Possible son:

  1. (perhaps) Thomas Russell Prentice, b. c. 1905. He is identified in WW II military death records as an Aircraftman 1st Class, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, who d. at age 40 on 8 May 1945, son of Archibald and Margaret Prentice of Glasgow. His memorial can be found at 9. E. 8., Madras War Cemetery, Chennai. A Google search discloses the following information:

    MADRAS WAR CEMETERY, CHENNAI, India. Madras War Cemetery is about 5 kilometres from the airport and 14 kilometres from the central railway station. The GST Road (Great Southern Trunk Road) leads from the airport past Trident Hotel to Kathipara roundabout - there is a Commonwealth War Graves Commission road direction sign on a small triangular island showing the way to the cemetery via Mount Poonamall Road, passing at the foot of St. Thomas Mount. The cemetery can easily be located on the right hand side of the road 1 kilometre from St. Thomas Mount. From Madras Central Railway Station the route is up Mount Road (Anna Selai) and over the bridge which crosses the River Cooun. The route passes St. Mary's Cemetery on Pallawan Road and is via LIC building (Life Insurance Corporation Building) situated on Mount Road, which leads to Anna Flyover and to Kathipara Junction.

    This cemetery was created by the Imperial War Graves Commission to receive 1939-1945 War graves from many civil and cantonment cemeteries in the south and east of India where their permanent maintenance could not be assured. At the far end of the main path from the entrance, is the Madras 1914-1918 War Memorial consisting of a wall bearing the names of one thousand servicemen who died during the 1914-1918 War who lie in many civil and cantonment cemeteries in various parts of India, where it is not possible to maintain their graves in perpetuity.

60. Jeannie Prentice Inglis, b. 5 Nov 1877, Shieldmuir, Lanark, Scotland. She m. Thomas Orr on 24 Feb 1899, Burgh Hall, Burnbank, Hamilton. Thomas Orr was at that time Baker Journeyman age 22. Jeannie was then an Assistant Shopkeeper, age 22. Thomas' father was Thomas Orr Sr., also an engine keeper and his mother, then deceased was Ann Orr.
Children of Thomas and Jeannie:

  1. Thomas Orr, b. 1900, Hamilton, and is reported to have died 29 Apr 1918 at the age of 19 in Belgium where he was serving in WW I. (Per Moira Ledger, email, 24 and 29 Dec 2002.)
  2. Alexander Inglis Orr, b. 10 Dec 1901, Hamilton
  3. Janet (Jenny) Prentice Orr, b. 1 Jul 1904, Hamilton
  4. Gavin Hamilton Orr, b. 12 Aug 1906, Hamilton. (This is Alison's line.)
  5. Ann (Anna) Hamilton Orr, b. 29 Aug 1908, Hamilton
  6. John Inglis Orr, b. 6 Dec 1910, Hamilton, and d. 1993 per Gordon Inglis Orr, email, 6 Dec 2009. He had 1 or more children, including:
    1. Gordon Inglis Orr.
  7. Jean Orr
  8. Hugh Inglis Orr, b. 9 Jun 1916, Hamilton

Who are Archibald Prentice's Parents?

Archibald Prentice may be the Archibald Prentice, b. 5 Oct 1755 in Cambusnethan, son of Thomas Prentice and Agnes Forrest (see our Fall 1999 article on Thomas Prentice of Cambusnethan). Archibald would have been 53 when Archibald, #2, above, was born but that is within the realm of possibility.

REVIEWER'S NOTE:In the previous paragraph, I'm not sure who Archibald, #2, above is referring to. If anyone has some thoughts, please let me know. --Scott Prentice

And Thomas Prentice may be the son of John Prentice and Marion Whitelaw (see our Fall 2001 article on John Prentice of Carluke).

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