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George Prentice of Horsleydown, Surrey, England
By Linus Joseph Dewald Jr., Editor
Summer 2003 and Revised 19 Dec 2009

Update of 19 Dec 2009: By email of 18 Dec 2009, Joy Lawson brings to our attention that the father of #2, George Prentice, is shown by his marriage certificate as being the son of Thomas Prentice. Accordingly this article has now been replaced by 2 new articles:

Our Spring 2010 article, George Prentice of South Hackney, Middlesex, England, and
Our Spring 2010 article, Thomas Prentice of Horsleydown, Surrey, England .

Kerry Prentice has provided us with information about George Prentice who appears in the 1861 census. We have augmented that information with information from the 1841 census.:

1. George Prentice was b. c. 1806 in Middlesex, England. He appears in the 1841 census (indexed as Prentica) in South Hackney, St. John Hackney Civil Parish, Middlesex, England with his wife and family. He does not appear in the 1851 and later census records.

He m. Sarah, b. c. 1806, Middlesex. Known children (from 1841 census):

George Prentice, b. c. 1827-28, Middlesex. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [2]
Emma Prentice, b. c. 1833, Middlesex.
Phoebe Prentice, b. c. 1837, Middlesex.
William Prentice, b. c. 1839, Middlesex. He does not appear in the 1851 and later census records.

2. George Prentice was b. c. 1827-28 in Horsleydown, Surrey. He appears in the 1841 and 1861 census, South Hackney, Middlesex,as a Warehouseman and in the 1871 Hackney, St. Johns census as an Asst. Warehouseman living on Ellis Terrace with his wife and family. It is unclear whether he was deceased by 1882 when his wife emigrated to Australia with her son, Alexander (Judith Dickson, email, 10 Sep 2006, citing Immigration Record IMM/116 703 M1698).

He m. Eliza Pearce, b. c. 1830, Southwark, Surrey, and d. 23 Apr 1900 in Australia. They do not appear in the 1881 and later census. She emigrated to Australia aboard the Dorunda with her son Alexander on 8 Apr 1882 (Judith Dickson, email, 10 Sep 2006, citing Immigration Record IMM/116 703 M1698). Children (per 1871 census):

Emma E. Prentice, b. c. 1850, Hoxton, Middlesex. At home in 1861. Not home in 1871 and perhaps married.
Maria D. Prentice, b. c. 1852, Beawoin Town, Middlesex. At home in 1861. Not home in 1871 and perhaps married.
Rose E. Prentice, b. c. 1857, Hackney. At home in 1871. Not home in 1881 and perhaps married.
Ann/Anne Prentice, b. c. 1859, Dalston, Middlesex. At home in 1871. Not in 1881 census and perhaps married. She may be the Annie Prentice mentioned in Kat Davies email of 12 Sep 2008 who apparently emigrated to Australia, as did her brother, Alexander, below, and m. Frank Corkling.
Alfred G. Prentice, b. c. 1862, Hackney. At home in 1871. Not in 1881 and later census.
Jessie Prentice (dau.), b. c. 1864, Hackney. She is likely the Jessie Prentice shown in the 1881 Hornsey, Middlesex, census as a Nurse and Mothers Help in the home of Edwin and Annie Dottridge at 165 Albion Rd., Hornsey, Middlesex. Not in 1891 census and perhaps married.
Alexander Prentice, b. 12 Jan 1866, Hackney. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [3]

3. Alexander Prentice was b. 12 Jan 1866 on Elias Terrace, London Rd. in Hackney, London, England, and d. 12 Jun 1902 in Stanthorpe, Qeensland, Australia (per Ancestry.com: One World Tree .

The photo, provided by Katrine Davies, shows Alexander on his wedding day.

He is shown at home in the 1871 census. In 1882 he emigrated to Queensland, Australia with his mother, Eliza (Judith Dickson, email, 10 Sep 2006, citing Immigration Record IMM/116 703 M1698).

Alexander died 12 Jun 1902 (Ref: 1902/004471) aged 35 yrs. He is buried at the Stanthorpe Cemetery, Queensland with a headstone erected by his wife Annie. (Ref: Judith Dickson, email, 4 Sep 2006).

He m. Anne "Annie" Engelmohr on 15 Aug 1894, Australia (Ref: 1894/B016993). She was b. c. 1859, Hackney, Middlesex (per 1871 census) or c. 1873 (per Ancestry.com: One World Tree), and d. 1910 in Stanthorpe, Australia. Anna was known as Annie to distinguish her from her youngest sister Anna Elizabeth. Annie's father Johannas born in Prussia d.1911 aged 72. Her mother Susanna Hesse born in Germany d.1916 aged 77 years. They are on the Brisbane City Council Grave Site search and also the information is held at the Stanthorpe Information Centre for burials in the cemetery there, but it's a bit obscure as it says DO (daughter of) John Englemohr & Susanna Hesse; brn Brisbane QLD; occ hotel keeper. I am not sure if that means her father also a hotel keeper or it's only in relation to Annie?

The photo of Anne was taken jus before their wedding. She was a noted singer and the photo may show her in costume.

By email of 10 Sep 2008, Kat Davies relates that "Annie and Alexander first lived in Brisbane after they were married where Alexander worked as an accountant for Messrs. Quilan & Grey Chartered Accountants. [Suffering from TB, but] his TB worsened and they moved to Stanthorpe for the colder climate. They bought the license for the Royal Hotel there and after Alexander died she ran the hotel by herself until she remarried. Kat Davies has the old accounts book from their hotel. The girls [their 3 daughters] went to boarding school in Brisbane.

The following information comes from an advertisement featuring the Royal Hotel at Stanthorpe, 1908.

Description Taken from Souvenir of the Stanthorpe District, L. T. Jobson photographer and publisher. This hotel changed names from the Royal Hotel to Landy's Hotel and then Stanthorpe Hotel. The proprietor was Mrs Annie Lawson (1908-1911) and then Mr W. R. Balding (1912-1915). (Description taken from: Harslett and Royle, They came to a Plateau : (the Stanthorpe saga), 1970) Stanthorpe is the commercial centre of the Granite Belt in Queensland. The region is unique for its wide seasonal variations, occasionally snowing in winter. The name Stanthorpe comes from the Latin word 'stannum', meaning tin, and the English word 'thorp' meaning village. The town grew around a coaching station established in 1857 and boomed in 1872 when tin was discovered near Quart Pot Creek. Fruit growing and winemaking are the two main industries in Stanthorpe today. (Information taken from: UBD Queensland Country Link Street & Travel Directory - 15 ed.)

Children of Alexander and Anne born of this marriage (Ref: Judith Dickson, email, 4 Sep 2006):

Dorothy Annie Prentice, b. 13 Feb 1895 (Ref: 1895/009668), and d. 23 Mar 1974, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. In the 1922, Cwealth Electoral Roll she is shown as living at Hazelwood, Stanthorpe and is described as a housewife. Dorothy married John Hallett Meek on 16 Aug 1922 (Ref: 1922/002522). He was b. in London. They had 2 daughters and 1 son.
Ellen "Daffy" Prentice, b. 18 Jan 1897, Brisbane (Ref: 1897/009107), and d. 3 Dec 1971 in Brisbane (per Ancestry.com: One World Tree). She m. Norman John Thompson a builder. They settled in Cunnamulla and later retired to Brisbane. They have 7 grandchildren through two sons: had John Duncan (m. Noela Falconer) and Donald Maxwell (m. Dorna Arnold).
Grace Mary Prentice, b. 27 Oct 1898 (Ref: 1898/B063189) and d. May 1974 in Southport, Aust, Queensland (per Ancestry.com: One World Tree). In the 1922, Cwealth Electoral Roll she is shown as living at Stanthorpe doing home duties. Grace married Lt. Henry Cavendish Harvey on 25 Oct 1923 (Ref: 1923/003374). He was b. 26 Dec 1894 and d. 29 Sep 1935. He was wounded late on the first day at Gallipoli he returned on a hospital ship and was sent to an Army sanotorium in Stanthorpe where Grace worked as a nurse assistant. After they married he drew a selection in a ballot and won a property west of Morven they named Coolamon, where they ran Merino sheep. Children:
1. Helen Louise Harvey. Did not marry.
2. Peter Harvey. He m. Miss Campbell and had 3 daughters, one of whom is our correspondent, Katrina Davies who has 2 daughters.

We had received conflicting information as to a subsequent marriage by Annie after Alexander died:

Judith Dickson's email of 4 Sep 2006 says that after Alexander died Annie remarried as Annie Prentice to George Haldine Blues on 17 Apr 1912 (Ref: 1912/003625) and had a son, George Haldane Blues, b. 17 Apr 1912 (Ref: 1912/003625).
However, Katrina Davies's emails of 10 Sep 2008 established that Annie had d. in 1910 and that her tombstone in the Stanthorpe cemetery, Catholic Section, shows she had died in 1910 which was 2 years prior to her supposed marriage to George Haldine Blues. Instead, Annie m. Robert Boondoomba Lawson ("Boondoomba" is the name of the property his family bought when they emigrated to Australia) and died during childbirth. The child, Robert Lawson survived and the only information known is he worked as an accountant on Belltrees station near Stanthorpe.

Who are George Prentice's Parents?

Investigation is continuing.

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