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John Prentice of Whitburn, Scotland

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John Prentice of Whitburn, Scotland
By Linus Joseph Dewald Jr., Editor
Winter 2002 and Revised 13 Nov 2009

Update of 13 Nov 2009: John Prentice is the son of Archibald Prentice and Elizabeth Anderson in our Fall 2003 article entitled Archibald Prentice of Edinburgh, Scotland . That article now replaces this article.
Note:   This is an updating of one of several families who appeared in our earlier Spring 2000 article on the Prentices of Whitburn, Scotland .

1. John Prentice, b. c. 1760-1775, m. Janet Rennie c. 1760-1775 at an unknown location. Children:

  1. (perhaps) Elizabeth Prentice, b. c. 1793 and d. 14 Dec 1871, age 78. An Elizabeth Prentice of those dates m. James Meek, b. c. 1786 and d in Culbert, on 4 Feb 1869, age 83. They are bur. in the Whitburn churchyard (per Forbes Meek, email, 20 Apr 2008). They had 1 or more children, including:
    1. John Meek, b. c. 1832 and d. 1876, age 44. Bur. Whitburn churchyard.
  2. Archibald Prentice, chr. 2 Jan 1795, Whitburn. . . . . . . . . . . . . . [2]
  3. Isobel Prentice, chr. 31 Oct 1798, Whitburn.
  4. Margaret Prentice, chr. 16 May 1802, Whitburn, and d. 1882 in Edinburgh. By email of 21 Mar 2006, Callum Webster, a great-great-great-grandson, adds the following additional information: Margaret m. James Black in 1823. He was b. 1800. They settled at West Calder and had the following children:
    1. Janet Black, b 1825
    2. Jean Black, b 1828, married David Lockerbie in Glasgow in 1855
    3. Margaret Black, b 1831
    4. William Black, b 1833
    5. Agnes Black, b 1835
    6. Elizabeth Black, b 1838, married Thomas Dick in West Calder in 1861
    7. Helen Black, b 1841
    8. John Black, b 1844

  5. Janet Prentice, chr. 1 Feb 1805, Whitburn.
  6. William Prentice, ch. 27 Dec 1807, Whitburn. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [3]
  7. John Prentice, chr. 3 Sep 1809, Whitburn.

2. Archibald Prentice, chr. 2 Jan 1795, Whitburn, Farmer. He is bur. in the Whitburn churchyard with a stone that says:

    Archibald Prentice of Bridge who died 30th Dec1873 age 80
    and his wife Agnes Meek died 3rd Dec 1870 age 72.
    erected by their son William Meek Prentice

    (Ref: Allen Fraser emails of 26 and 28 Jun 2001; Forbes Meek, email, 20 Apr 2008).

Archibald m. Agnes Meek. Their children included:

  1. James Prentice, b. c. 1822, Whitburn (per 1861 and 1881 census) and d. Jun 1881 in Edinburgh at the age of 59. His Death Certificate says he was a carter and also a vanman. He m. Mary Dykes on 29 Oct 1841. Mid Calder. . She was b. c. 1824, Kirknewton, Edinburgh. He appears in the 1861 census in Edinburgh St. Cuthberts, Midlothian. Children (per IGI):
    1. Archibald Prentice, b. c. 1842, Kirknewton, Edinburgh. At home in 1861.
    2. Elizabeth Prentice, b. 1843
    3. John Prentice, b. 1846. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [4]
    4. James Prentice, b. c. 1849, Currie, Edinburgh. At home in 1861.
    5. Thomas Prentice, b. c. 1851, St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh. At home in 1861.
    6. Agnes Prentice, b. c. 1853, St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh. At home in 1861.
    7. Willam Meek Prentice, b. 1855 Not home in 1861.
    8. Mary Prentice, b. 1857, St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh. At home in 1861.
    9. Isabella Prentice, b. 1862 (per 1881 census)

  2. Archibald Prentice, Labourer, b. c. 1825. He m. 1st Helen Meek 12 Oct 1846 at Whitburn. Helen was b. c. 1828, Whitburn, Linblithgow (per 1851 census), and d. 1867. Children:
    1. Archibald Prentice, b. c. 1848, Whitburn, Linlithgow. At home there in 1851 and 1861.
    2. James Prentice, b. c. 1850, Whitburn, Linlithgow. At home there in 1851 and 1861.

    Archibald m. 2nd Mary, b. c. 1834, Whitburn, Linlighgow. Children:

    1. Helen Prentice, b. c. 1848, Whitburn, Linlighgow. At home in 1861.
    2. Janet Prentice, b. c. 1860, Whitburn, Linlighgow. At home in 1861.

    Archibald Prentice, as a widower, age 42, m. 3rd Barbara Neil, on 8 Jul 1867 at Dalkieth. She was a domestic servant. In 1877 he was a Store Keeper. Son of Archibald and Barbara:

    1. George Prentice, b. 27 Mar 1877, Shotts. He m. Euphemia O. Anderson on 12 Jun 1903 at Prestonpans. George was an Underground Manager at the time of his marriage.

  3. Isabella Prentice. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [5]

3. William Prentice, b. c. 1808, Whitburn, Linlithgow per the 1851 Census

He m. Elizabeth Brown in Lanark (per David Millan, email, 18 Aug 2005). She was b. c. 1822 in Ireland (per 1851 census). They appear in the 1851 census in Whitburn, Linlithgow. Children shown in the IGI and 1851 census (except as to William) at Ancestry.com : William, Elizabeth and some of their children appear in the 1881 census in Livingston, Linlithgow, which lies only about 5-6 miles to the east of Whitburn ( see Fn. 1 )

  1. John Prentice, chr. 24 Mar 1844 Whitburn, West Lothian. At home 1851, Whitburn.
  2. Archibald, b. c. 1845, Whitburn. At home 1851, Whitburn.
  3. Agnes Prentice, chr. 9 Nov 1845 Whitburn, West Lothian, Scotland. At home in 1851 census.
  4. William Prentice, b. c. 1848, Whitburn (per 1881 census). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [6]
  5. Elizabeth Prentice, b. c. 1850, Whitburn, Linlithgow. At home in 1851 census.
  6. James Prentice, b. 31 Aug 1856 Whitburn, West Lothian, Scotland
  7. Isabella Prentice, b. 26 Sep 1857 Whitburn, West Lothian, Scotland
  8. David Prentice, b. 5 Feb 1861 Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland
  9. Archibald Prentice, b. 29 Feb 1864 Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland

4. John Prentice was b. 1846. At home in 1861. John was called a shop-porter on his marriage certificate in 1866. When his son James was married in 1885, John was called a maltster.

He m. Janet Lindsay on 21 Sep 1866 in Newington, Edinburgh. Children (per IGI):

  1. James Prentice, b. 1866 in Edinburgh. . . . . . . . [7]
  2. Robert Lindsay Prentice, b. 1869.
  3. Thomas Prentice, b. 1871.
  4. Margaret Symington Prentice, b. 1873-75.
  5. John Prentice, b. 1876

5. Isabella Prentice. She m. David Pringle. They had 1 or more children, including:

  1. Elizabeth Pringle. She m. William McLauchlan. They had 1 or more children, including:
    1. Agnes Meek McLauchlan. She m. Angus Martin. They had 1 or more children, including:
      1. Elizabeth Pringle Martin. She had 1 or more children, including:
        1. Liz Davis (per her email, 12 Aug 2004)

6. William Prentice, b. c. 1848, Whitburn, West Lothian, Scotland and d. after 1903 (per David Millan, email, 18 Aug 2005).

He m. Janet Potter who was b. c. 1849 in Linlithgow, Scotland. The 1881 census says William is a Ploughman and shows them living at East Craigie Cottage, Cramond, Edinburgh. Children (per Ancestry.com and David Millan, email, 18 Aug 2005):

  1. Janet Prentice b: 1877 in Midcalder, Edinburgh, Scotland
  2. Isabella Prentice b: 1878 in Linlithgow, Scotland. . . . . . . [8]
  3. Agnes Prentice b: 1880 in Cramond, Edinburgh, Scotland
  4. Margaret Trotter Prentice b: 1882 in Lanark, Scotland

7. James Prentice was b. 1866 in Edinburgh and died 1916 in Edinburgh. He m. Annie Ross on 27 Feb 1885 in Newington. James was a confectioner. Two of his sons were killed in WW1. Children:

  1. Janet Lindsay Prentice, b. 1885 and d. 1942. . . . . . . [9]
  2. Jane Walker Prentice, b. 1888.
  3. Peter Ross Prentice, b. 1890 and d. 1915.
  4. John Prentice, b. 1892 and d. 1925.
  5. James Alfred Prentice, b. 1898 and d. 1917. WW I military death records show him as a Private, Black Watch (Royal Highlanders), 4th/5th Bn., who d. at age 19 on 24 Nov 1917, son of James and Annie Prentice of 25 Cardwell Rd., Gourock, Renfrewshire, Native of Edinburgh. His memorial is at IV. L. 10., Hooge Crater Cemetery. A Google search found the following information:

      Location: Hooge Crater Cemetery is 4 kilometres east of Ieper town centre on the Meenseweg (N8), connecting Ieper to Menen. From Ieper town centre the Meenseweg is located via Torhoutstraat and right onto Basculestraat. Basculestraat ends at a main crossroads, directly over which begins the Meenseweg. The cemetery itself is located 3.5 kilometres along the Meenseweg on the right hand side of the road.

      Historical Information: Hooge Chateau and its stables were the scene of very fierce fighting throughout the First World War. On 31 October 1914, the staff of the 1st and 2nd Divisions were wiped out by shell fire in the chateau. From 24 May to 3 June 1915, the chateau was defended against German attacks and in July 1915, the crater was made by a mine sprung by the 3rd Division. On 30 July, the Germans took the chateau, and on 9 August, it and the crater were regained by the 6th Division. The Germans retook Hooge on 6 June 1916 and on 31 July 1917, the 8th Division advanced 1.6 kilometres beyond it. It was lost for the last time in April 1918, but regained by the 9th (Scottish) and 29th Divisions on 28 September.

      Hooge Crater Cemetery was begun by the 7th Division Burial Officer early in October 1917. It contained originally 76 graves, in Rows A to D of Plot I, but was greatly increased after the Armistice when graves were brought in from smaller cemeteries in the area and from the battlefields of Zillebeke, Zantvoorde and Gheluvelt. There are now 5,924 Commonwealth servicemen of the First World War buried or commemorated in this cemetery. 3,578 of the burials are unidentified but special memorials record the names of a number of casualties either known or believed to be buried among them, or whose graves in other cemeteries were destroyed by shell fire. The cemetery was designed by Sir Edwin Lutyens.

  6. Anne Prentice. She has descendants in S. Africa as of 2001.

8. Isabella Prentice, b. 1878 in Linlithgow, Scotland, and d. 24 Aug 1955 in Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland.

She m. David Steedman on 12 Jun 1903 in Colinton, Edinburgh. He was b. 31 Mar 1874 in Currie, Edinburgh, and d. 14 Nov 1944 at 103 Middleton Place, Uphill,WLN,Scotland. He was the son of William Steedman and Mary Lamb. They had 1 or more children, including (per Ancestry.com):

  1. David Steedman, b. c. 1904 and d. after 1953.

9. Janet Lindsay Prentice, b. 1885 and d. 1942. She m. Earle Fraser in 1909 in Fife. They are Allen Fraser's grandparents. Allen lives in Liverpool, UK.

Who are the Parents of John Prentice and Janet Rennie?

Caution: The following material should only be viewed as an investigative lead and not relied on without further investigation.

We located a different Prentice marriage where the wife's surname is given as "Renwick", in the marriage record. In the birth records of her children her surname is shown as "Rennie".

With that in mind, there is a chance John Prentice is the same person as the John Prentice who m. Janet Renwick on 16 Apr 1791 in Cambusnethan which is only about 12 miles or so west of Whitburn. The marriage date is consistent with the birth of John's children, and so far we have not located any record of children born to a John Prentice and a "Janet Renwick", but only to a Janet Rennie.

As to the identity of John's parents, we found only 3 John Prentices who fit the appropriate time frame and general location:

  1. John Prentice, b. 12 Apr 1767 to James Prentice and Jean Smellie in Cambusnethan
  2. John Prentice, b. 8 Nov 1768 to James Prentice and Margaret Wilson in Carnwath
  3. John Prentice, b. 25 Dec 1770 to John Prentice and Euphemia Scott in Carluke

So far we have not located any marriages for those Johns other than the possible marriage to Janet Renwick.

Janet Renwick is probably the Janet Renwick, chr. 21 May 1769 in Cambusnethan to John Renwick and Margaret Hendry. We have not located any Janet Rennie in an appropriate time frame near Cambusnethan or Whitburn; the closest is a Janet Rennie b. 17 May 1773 in Whitekirk, East Lothian, a few miles east of Edinburgh.

See also Footnore 2 about a possible additional daughter and about John's possible birth place.

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Footnore 1:
  Dwelling:	 
	Census Place:	Livingstone, Linlithgow, Scotland
	Source:	FHL Film 0203708     GRO Ref    Volume 669    EnumDist 2    Page 12

	Marr	Age	Sex	Birthplace

William PRENTICE	M	75 	M	Whitburn, Linlithgow, Scotland
	Rel:	Head
	Occ:	Church Officer
Elizabeth B. PRENTICE	M	61 	F	Girvan, Ayr, Scotland
	Rel:	Wife
	Occ:	Housewife
Isabella PRENTICE	U	23 	F	Whitburn, Linlithgow, Scotland
	Rel:	Dau
	Occ:	Papermill Operative
David PRENTICE	U	20 	M	Livingstone, Linlithgow, Scotland
	Rel:	Son
	Occ:	Papermill Operative
Elizabeth PRENTICE	 	2 	F	Livingstone, Linlithgow, Scotland
	Rel:	Grd Dau

Footnore 2: By email of 1 Aug 2006, Callum Webster provides information about a possible additional daughter and about John's possible birth place. It reads, in part, as follows:


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