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John Prentice of Needham, Suffolk, England

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John Prentice of Needham, Suffolk, England
By Linus Joseph Dewald Jr., Editor
Spring 2001 and Revised 4 Aug 2011

Using census records, and with the help of the following people, we have established the tentative, but not yet fully verified, family tree set out below:

  1. Ian Prentice's email of 3 Jan 2001 and 21 Mar 2003,
  2. the IGI,
  3. Lynne (Howard) Rogers,
  4. Steve Harvey's email of 29 Jun 2003,
  5. Kay Stevens' email of 28 Oct 2003, and
  6. William Laflin's email of 17 Nov 2003

1. John Prentice, b. 7 Jul 1700, Needham, Norfolk, and d. 9 Apr 1718, Norfolk Co., England.

He m. Alice Poole, both of Needham, on 24 Feb 1722/23 and had children:

  1. James Prentice, b. 18 Feb 1727. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [2]
  2. Sarah Prentice, b. Aug 1730 and d. 1 Aug 1735
  3. Jane Prentice, b. 3 Dec 1732.

2. James Prentice, b. 18 Feb 1727. He may be the father of:

  1. Robert Prentice of Great Bricett, b. c. 1755. . . . . . . . . . . [3]

3. Robert Prentice? of Great Bricett, b. c. 1755 and d. 1797 in Great Bricett, Suffolk.

He m. Sarah Snell on 29 Feb 1780 in Great Bricett. She was b. c. 1756 and d. 1822 in Great Bricett. Children:

  1. Robert Prentice, b. 21 Jan 1781 Gt. Bricett. . . . . . . . . [4]
  2. James Prentice, b. 1782. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .[5]
  3. Henry Prentice, b. 19 April 1786 Gt. Bricett. . . . . . . . . . . [6]
  4. Sarah Prentice, bap. 9 Nov 1788, Great Bricett. She had a son:
    1. Shadrach Prentice, bap. 6 Oct 1811, Great Bricett. The IGI shows him as Shadrack and that he m. Sarah Sage on 22 Nov 1835, Great Bricett. Witnesses were Henry Prentice and Hannah Prike. Sarah was b. c. 1816, Suffolk. They appear in the 1841 census in Ringshall, Suffolk. He does not appear in the 1851 and later census. Children at home in 1841. in 1841:
      1. Elizabeth Prentice, bap. 3 Apr 1836, Great Bricett. She is a Servant in the 1851 census in Ipswich St. Matthew, Suffolk. Not in 1861 and later census.
      2. Sarah Prentice, b. c. 1838, Suffolk. Not in 1851 and later census.
      3. Harriott Prentice, b. c. 1841, Suffolk. Not in 1851 and later census.

  5. John Prentice, bap. 11 May 1791, Suffolk; bur 13 Dec 1875, Flowton. He is quite likely the John Prentice who m. Mary Grimsey on 13 Oct 1817 in Flowton. Witnesses were Isaac and Lydia Grimsey. She was b. c. 1801 (per 1841 census) in Somersham, Suffolk and was bur. 6 May 1866 in Flowton. They appear in the 1841 census in Flowton. Children (per 1841 census and Steve Harvey, 29 Jun 2003):
    1. Mary Ann Prentice, bap. 25 May 1818, Flowton and bur. 7 May 1820, Flowton.
    2. John Prentice, b. 5 Jul 1823 and bap. 3 Aug 1823, Flowton and bur. there 12 Apr 1833.
    3. James Prentice, b. c. 1826, Suffolk. At home in 1841 Flowton census. Not in 1851 and later census.
    4. Mary Ann Prentice, b. c. 1828, Flowton. She m. John Green on 15 Nov 1846 in Flowton. Witnesses were Sarah Green and James Prentice. John was the son of William Green; he was b. c. 1825 in Offton, Suffolk. In the 1851 census they lived next door to her parents in Flowton. He was then a carpenter. Not in 1871 and later census. They had at least a daughter:
      1. Emily Green, b. c. 1848, Flowton. At home in 1861 census in St. Sepulchre, Middlesex. Not in 1871 and later census.

  6. Phoebe Prentice, bap. 28 Apr 1793, Great Bricett, Suffolk, and d. there Apr 1796.
  7. Elizabeth Prentice, bap 13 Mar 1796, Great Bricett. She m. Henry William Page, a bachelor from Great Bricett, Suffolk, on 25 Dec 1821, Great Bricett. Witnesses were Mary Prentice and James Blomfield.

4. Robert Prentice, bap. 21 Jan 1781 Gt. Bricett and d. there Mar 1872. He appears in the 1881 census as an Agricultural laborer, age 75, in a Cottage in Offton, Suffolk, living alone with a servant.

He m. Keziah Laughlan 13 May 1803 Gt. Bricett. Witnesses were John and Elizabeth Snell. Keziah was b.bap. Apr 1783,Ringshall, and d. Sept 1837, Great Bricett. Keziah was the dau. of William Laflin and Susan Creswells (per William Laflin, email, 17 Nov 2003, citing LDS Ped. Resource File). Children (per Ian Prentice, email, 21 Mar 2003, Steve Harvey, 29 Jun 2003, and, from Sarah on, Births and Christenings ):

  1. James Prentice, bap. 15 Jan 1804 (Steve Harvey, email, 20 Jun 2003). . . .[7]
  2. Robert Prentice, b. 25 Oct 1805, Gt. Bricett. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [8]
  3. John Prentice, b. 20 Feb 1807. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [4.1]
  4. Harry/Henry Prentice, b. 28 May 1809, bap. 2 Jun 1811, and d. 1886, Lambeth (per Steve Harvey, above). . . . . . . . . .[9]
  5. (omitted, see Fn. 1).
  6. Sarah Prentice, chr. 14 Apr 1816, Great Bricett.
  7. Jemima Prentice, chr. 14 Apr 1816, Great Bricett.
  8. Mary Ann Prentice, chr. 14 Apr 1816, Great Bricett.
  9. David Prentice, bap. 14 Oct 1821, Bricett and bur. 17 Mar 1860 in Stowmarket, Suffolk. He married Jemima Turner c. 1846. She was born c. 1822 in Stowmarket and was bur there 11 Dec 1884. In 1851 David was a Groom and lived in Hitcham, Suffolk. In 1881 Jemima was a nurse: Children:
    1. Ann Prentice Turner, b. 23 Nov 1843, Hitcham and bap. there 30 May 1847.
    2. Charles Prentice Turner, b. 25 Jun 1845 and bap. there 30 May 1847.
    3. Elizabeth Turner Prentice, b. 20 Jan 1847, Hitcham and bap. there 30 May 1847. In the 1881 census she was a Dressmaker, is living, unmarried,with her widowed mother on Bury St., Stowmarket, Suffolk.
    4. Hannah Elizabeth Turner, b. c. 1849, Hitcham. In 1881 she was a servant at 43 Montague Square, St. Marylebone, London, Middlesex.
    5. (perhaps) William W. Prentice, b. c. 1853, Hitcham. He appears in the 1881 census living on Bury St., Stowmarket, Suffolk, with his wife, Martha, b. c. 1854, Debenham, Suffolk, and daughter:
      1. Harriett Prentice, b. c. 1878, Stowmarket, Suffolk.
  10. Hannah Prentice, chr. 14 Oct 1821, Bricett.
  11. William Prentice, chr. 10 Feb 1822, Great Bricett. He does not appear in the 1881 census.
  12. Elizabeth Keziah Prentice, b. c. 1826. . . . . . . . . . . [4.2]

4.1 John Prentice, b. 20 Feb 1807, and bap. 2 Jun 1811, Great Bricett, Suffolk, and d. 1879 in Bildeston, Suffolk. He m. Caroline Brooks on 17 Mar 1845 in Bildeston, Suffolk. Witnesses were Hannah Clark and Edward Disney. Caroline was bap. 20 Aug 1820 in Offton Cum Little Bricett, Suffolk, dau. of William Brooks and Sarah Disney. Caroline d. 1878 in Bildeston. Children:

  1. Anna Prentice, b. c. 1846, Bildeston, Suffolk.
  2. John Prentice, b. c. 1851, Bildeston, Suffolk.
  3. Emma Prentice, b. c. 1856, Bildeston. . . . . . . . . . [4.3]

4.2 Elizabeth Keziah Prentice, b. c. 1826 and chr. 21 Jun 1829, Great Bricett. She married Joshua London on 6 Jul 1844 in Great Bricett, son of Edward London. Witnesses were Abel Fairs and Susan Prentice. Joshua was b. c. 1825 in Great Bricett. In the 1881 census they lived in a Cottage, Offton. Children:

  1. Walter London, b. c. 1845 and bap. 24 Dec 1848, Great Bricett. In the 1881 census, Walter was a convict at 'HM Convict Prison Portsmouth', Portsea, Hampshire. His occupation was Bricklayers Labourer. He married Elizabeth who was b. c. 1852 in Offton, Suffolk. In 1881, while her husband was in prison, she lived at The Workhouse, Barham, Suffolk. Cjo;drem"
    1. Frank London, b. c. 1873, Offton, Suffolk.
    2. Louisa or Keziah London, b. c. 1874, Barham, Suffolk.
    3. Rose London, b. c. 1877, Bildeston, Suffolk.
    4. Charles London, b. c. 1880, Barham, Suffolk.
    5. George London, b. c. 1886, Offton, Suffolk.
    6. Mary A. London, b. c. 1888, Offton, Suffolk.
    7. Jane London, b. c. 1890, Offton, Suffolk.
    8. Robert London, b. c. 1891, Offton, Suffolk.
  2. John London, bap. 24 Dec 1848, Great Bricett. In 1881 he was unmarried and living with his parents in Offton where he was an Agricultural Labourer.
  3. Emma London, b. c. 1851, Great Bricette.
  4. Joshua Clifford London, b. c. 1853, Great Bricett. In 1881 he was an Agricultural Labourer living with his parents in Offton, unmarried. He m. Emily who was b. c. 1866 in Creeting All Saints, Suffolk. In 1891 Joshua and Emily lived on Green Lane, Great Bricett, and in 1901 on Green St., Great Bricett where he is called an "Ordinary Agricultural Labourer (worker)".
    1. Elizabeth M. London, b. c. 1892, Great Bricett.
    2. Laura E. London, b. c. 1893, Great Bricett.
    3. Hilda A. London, b. c. 1900, Great Bricett.
  5. Mary Ann London, b. c. 1856, Great Bricett.
  6. Matilda London, b. c. 1858, Great Bricett.
  7. Alice London, b. c. 1860, Great Bricett.
  8. William London, b. c. 1863, Great Bricett. In 1881 he was an Agricultural Labourer living with his parents, unmarried.
  9. Charles London, b. c. 1869, Great Bricett. In 1881 he was an Agricultural Labourer living with his parents, unmarried.
The 1841 census also shows, as living in Robert and Keziah's household, Mary Ann Prentice, b. c. 1841, but it is not clear whether she is a daughter or granddaughter.

4.3 Emma Prentice, b. c. 1856, Bildeston, Suffolk and bur 26 Oct 1907, Hadleigh, Suffolk. She married George Brooks 12 Jun 1879 in Naughton, Suffolk, son of Isaac Brooks and Sarah Schofield. Marriage witnesses were Henry Osborn(?) and Harriet Brooks. George was bap. 15 May 1853 in Naughton, and was bur. 12 Apr 1909 in Hadleigh, Suffolk. In 1881 George was a Blacksmith Journeyman and the family lived on George St. Terrace, hadleigh. They had at least one son:

  1. Harold John Brooks, bap. 15 Aug 1880, Naughton, Suffolk.

5. James Prentice, b. 1782 (1841 census says c. 1786, Suffolk) and d. 1859, Great Bricett.

He m. Dinah Thorpe on 28 Feb 1810 in Great Bricett. Witnesses were William Pung, Sarah Prentice and James Fosdike. Dinah was b. c. 1791, Suffolk (per 1841 census) and d. and was bur there 1 Mar 1857. Children:

  1. (probably) James Prentice. We have conflicting information about James Prentice:

    • One source says he was b. c. 1811, Great Bricett. . . . . . . . [5.1]
    • Entries at Ancestry.com and elsewhere say he was b. 1801 in Needham, Suffolk, and d. 1881 in Bosmere Suffolk. For that line, see our Winter 2003 article entitled Harry Prentice of Needham Market .

  2. Dinah Prentice, bap. 17 Jan 1813, Great Bricett (per Steve Harvey, 20 Jun 2003).
  3. Mary Prentice, chr. 8 Oct 1815, Great Bricett. . . . . . . . . [5.2]
  4. Sarah Prentice, bap. 23 Aug 1818 (per Steve Harvey, above, but 1841 census says b. c. 1821). She was living with her parents in the 1841 census.
  5. Henry Prentice, chr. 9 Sep 1821, Great Bricett and d. there 1832.
  6. Elizabeth Prentice, chr. 13 Oct 1822, Great Bricett. Probably d. before 1827 (see next child).
  7. Elizabeth Prentice, chr. 10 Jun 1827, Great Bricett.
  8. Susannah Prentice, chr. 14 Sep 1828, Great Bricett. . . . . . . . [5.3]
  9. Caroline Prentice, bap. 25 Jan 1835. She m. James Minns on 18 Jan 1851, Great Bricett; he was b. c. 1831, Naughton, Suffolk. Witnesses were Henry Page and Frances Page (per Steve Harvey).
  10. Lucy Prentice, bap 25 Jan 1835, Great Bricett. . . . . . . . . [5.4]

5.1 (probably) James Prentice, b. c. 1811, Great Bricett (see Fn. 1).

He m. 1st Sarah Bugg on 11 Aug 1833 in Willisham, Suffolk; she was b. c. 1816 in Willisham. Sarah d. before 1856. James m. 2nd Elizabeth Welham on 31 Aug 1856 in Offton. Witnesses were Walter Simpson and Elizabeth Prentice. Elizabeth Welham was the dau. of William Welham and was b. c. 1833 in Nettlestead, Suffolk. James appears in the 1881 Offton, Suffolk census lving in a cottage with his wife, Elizabeth, b. c. 1833, Nettlestead, Suffolk. Children of James and his 1st wife, Sarah Bugg:

  1. William Prentice, bap. 15 1834, Great Bricett, Suffolk. He m. Maria who was b. c. 1829 in Boxford, Suffolk. In 1881 they lived at 3 White St. Green, Boxford where he was an Agricultural Labourer Children per 1881 census:
    1. William Prentice, b. c. 1867, Boxford, Suffolk. At home in 1881.
    2. John Prentice, b. c. 1874, Boxford, Suffolk.
  2. Henry Prentice, bap. 5 May 1836, Great Bricett, Suffolk. In 1851 he was living with his parents.
  3. John Prentice, bap. 5 Jul 1838, Great Bricett In 1851 he was living with his parents. In 1881 he was the unmarried head of the household at 50 Clay Lane, Ipswich, St. Mary at the Tower, Suffolk.
  4. Robert Prentice, bap. 18 Apr. 1841, Offton, Suffolk. Living with his parents in 1851. Not in 1861 and later census..
  5. Frederick Prentice, bap. 21 Jul 1844, Offton. He is shown in the 1881 Offton census living with his parents, unmarried. He was then a Gardener. In 1891 Offton census, single and a Gardener.
  6. Walter Prentice, b. c. 1849, Offton, Suffolk. At home in 1851 and 1861. Not in 1871 and later census.

5.2 Mary Prentice, chr. 8 Oct 1815, Great Bricett, Suffolk and was bur there 25 Jul 1888. She may, or may not, be the Mary Prentice who m. Charles Grimwood on 8 Nov 1835 in Great Bricett. He was the son of William and Hannah Grimwood and was bap. 16 Jun 1816 in Battisford, Suffolk; Charles was bur. 13 Dec 1872 in Great Bricett. Another possibility is that Charles Grimwood m. Mary Ann Prentice, daughter of Robert Prentice and Keziah Laughlin; that Mary Ann was bap. 14 Apr 1816 in Great Bricett. Children of the Mary Prentice who m. Charles Grimwood:

  1. Charles Grimwood, b. c. 1838, Great Bricett. In 1881 census he is shown as an unmarried convict in Wormwood Scrubs Prison, London; Occupation: 1881, Labourer
  2. Dina Grimwood, b. c. 1841, Great Bricett.
  3. Eliza Grimwood, b. c. 1843, Great Bricett.
  4. Charlotte Grimwood, b. c. 1846, Great Bricett.
  5. Henry Grimwood, b. c. 1849, Great Bricett. . . . . . . . . [5.5]
  6. Jesse Grimwood, b. c. 1853, Great Bricett. . . . . . . . . [5.6]
  7. James Grimwood, b. c. 1855 Great Bricett and d. there 1887. . . . [5.7]

5.3 Susannah Prentice, chr. 14 Sep 1828, Great Bricett, Suffolk. She m. Abel Faiers/Fayers on 8 Nov 1847 in Great Bricett. Witnesses were Joshua and Elizabeth London. Abel was b. c. 1826 in Great Bricett, son of Edward Faires. In 1881 census. Children:

  1. John Robert Fayers (aka John Prentice), bap. 3 May 1846, Great Bricett. He may have been born out of wedlock. By email of 6 Jan 2004, Paul Dart confirms John as the son of Susannah and Abel. He m. LottieStubbings. Son:
    1. Rose Fayers.
  2. James Fayers, b. c. 1864, Great Bricette. At home, unmarried, in 1881.
  3. Able Fayers, b. c. 1868, Great Bricett. At home, unmarried, in 1881.
  4. Charlotte Fayers, b. c. 1870, Great Bricett.

5.4 Lucy Prentice, bap 25 Jan 1835, Great Bricett, Suffolk, and d. 15 Jan 1893 at Bricett (per Lynne Rogers, email, 27 May 2003 and Steve Harvey, above). In the 1851 census for Barking, Suffolk, she was a housemaid in the house of George Preston, a farmer. She m. Daniel Howe on 3 Jan 1856, Great Bricett. Witnesses were Walter Simpson and Elizabeth Prentice. Daniel was a master carpenter. Son:

  1. Robert Howe, b. c. 1859, Great Bricett. At home in 1881.
  2. Charles/Charley Howe, b. c. 1860, Great Bricett. Carpenter. He m. Catherine Durrant in Battisford.
    1. Grace Edith Howe. She m. George Harry Howard in Baylham. Children:
      1. Harry Howard. He m. Eileen Blandford.
      2. Leslie Howard. He m. Evelyn Still. Daughter:
          Lynne Howard. She m. Mr. Rogers.
  3. Daniel Howe, b. c. 1867, Great Bricett. At home in 1881.
  4. William Howe, b. c. 1869, Great Bricett. At home in 1881.
  5. Ada Howe, b. c. 1871, Great Bricett. At home in 1881.
  6. Rosa Howe, b. c. 1873, Great Bricett. At home in 1881.
  7. Barnard Howe, b. c. 1876, Great Bricett. At home in 1881.

5.5 Henry Grimwood, b. c. 1849, Great Bricett, Suffolk. He m. Anna who was b. c. 1850 in Great Bricett, Suffolk, and died Aft. 1891. In 1881 and 1891 they lived in Great Bricett and in both census records he is called a Shepherd. Children:

  1. Herbert J. Grimwood, b. c. 1870, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  2. Mary E. Grimwood, b. c. 1872, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  3. Charles E. Grimwood, b. c. 1875, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  4. Alice M. Grimwood, b. c. 1877, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  5. Agnes S. Grimwood, b. c. 1879, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  6. Rosina Grimwood, b. c. 1880, Great Bricett, Suffolk; bur. 30 Jan 1959, Ipswich. She m. Walter William Squirrel in 1910, Cosford Registration District, Suffolk. Walter was b. c. 1880, Wattisham, Suffolk and d. 1952, Wattisham.
  7. Harry E. Grimwood, b. c. 1883, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  8. Albert V. Grimwood, b. c. 1885, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  9. Archibald Grimwood, b. c. 1887, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  10. Alfred E. Grimwood, b. c. 1889, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  11. Arthur E. Grimwood, b. c. 1891, Great Bricett, Suffolk.

5.6 Jesse Grimwood, b. c. 1853, Great Bricett and d. aft. 1891. He married 1st Lucy bef. 1876. She was born c. 1855 in Ipswich, Suffolk, and was bur. 10 Dec 1882 in Great Bricett, Suffolk. In 1881 they lived in Great Bricett where he was an Agricultural Labourer. Children:

  1. Emma Grimwood, b. c. 1876, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  2. Charlotte Grimwood, b. c. 1877, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  3. Ellen Grimwood, b. c. 1881, Great Bricett, Suffolk.

Jesse m. 2nd Eliza c. 1883.

  1. Elizabeth Grimwood, b. c. 1884, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  2. Christopher Grimwood, b. c. 1886, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  3. Ellen Grimwood, b. c. 1888, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  4. Lily Ethel Grimwood, b. c. 1890, Great Bricett, Suffolk.

5.7 James Grimwood, b. c. 1855 in Great Bricett, Suffolk, and was bur. there 14 Jul 1887. He m. Eliza in Great Bricett bef. 1876. She was b. c. 1855 in Nettlestead, Suffolk. In 1881 they lived in Great Bricette where he was an Agricultural Labourer. Children:

  1. Emma Eler Grimwood, b. c. 1876, Nettlestead, Suffolk.
  2. Frederic Grimwood, b. c. 1877, Great Bricett, Suffolk; bur. there 18 Mar 1882.
  3. James Grimwood, b. c. 1880, Great Bricett, Suffolk.

6. Henry Prentice, b. 19 April 1786 Gt. Bricett and d. 3 Nov 1874 in Flowton. Became an Agricultural Labourer in Flowton. He appears in the 1841 census in Flowton, Suffolk with his wife and family.

Henry m. Elizabeth Buss on 28 Jan 1811 in Wattisham (Wattisfield?) which lies only about 3-5 miles NW of Flowton. Elizabeth was b. c. 1789 in Wattisham, Suffolk and d. 17 April 1865. Henry and ELizabeth's children were:

  1. Phoebe Prentice, b. c. 1819, Flowton, Suffolk. She m. Sept 1842 Thomas Battershill in Bloomsbury in London. He was b. c. 1816, Arelongifford, Devon. They appear in the 1851 census in St. Martin in the Fields, Middlesex, with their children. Not in 1861 and later census. Children:
    1. Caroline Battershill, b. c. 1847, St. Martin in the Fields, Middlesex. At home in 1851.
    2. Elizabeth Battershill, b. c. 1845, St. Martin in the Fields, Middlesex. At home in 1851.
    3. Rosamond Battershill, b. c. 1850, St. Martin in the Fields, Middlesex. At home in 1851.

  2. Elizabeth Prentice, b. 22 June 1817 in Flowton; m. Robert Bugg on 9 Jun 1841, Flowton. Witnesses were David and Susan Prentice. Robert was b. c. 1818 in Somersham, Suffolk. They appear in the 1851 and 1861 Flowton, Suffolk census. 1871 & 1881 census in Somersham, Suffolk. Robert appears without Elizabeth in the 1891 Somersham census. In the 1901 census Robert is an "inmate" at the Barham Union Workhouse. Children:
    1. Golden Bugg, son, b. c. 1847, Flowton, Suffolk. At home in 1851 and 1861. Not in 1871 and later census records.
    2. Alice Bugg, b. c. 1854, Flowton, Suffolk. At home in 1861. In 1871 a Servant in St. Sidwell, Devon. Not in 1881 and later census records.

  3. Henry Prentice, b. 22 Jun 1817 in Flowton; died before 1881; m. 1st Sarah Ann Ranson on 9 Jun 1841, Flowton, Suffolk. Witnesses were Benjamin Hazel and Emma Ranson. She was the dau. of John Ranson and was b. c. 1820 and bur. 30 Apr 1846 in Flowton. Son:
    1. James Prentice, b. 1846 Flowton (see map). James d. 1873. He does not appear in the 1851 and later census records.

    Henry m. 2nd Mary Ann Cook on 15 Jan 1847 in Flowton, dau. of James Cook. Witnesses were Emma Prentice and Samuel Wright. She was b. c. 1820 in Hadleigh, Suffolk and was bur. 26 Oct 1858 in Flowton. Children:

    1. Emma Prentice, bap. 30 Apr 1848, Flowton; m. Sept 1867. She may be the Emma Lay who appears in the 1871 census in Bramford, Suffolk, wife of John Lay who was b. c. 1830, Bramford. Not in 1881 census. 1891 census in Foxhall, Suffolk. Children:
      1. Charles Lay, b. c. 1859. Not home in 1891.
      2. Eliza Lay, b. c. 1862. Not home in 1891.
      3. Edward Lay, b. c. 1867. Not home in 1891.
    2. Caroline Prentice, bap. 25 Aug 1850, Flowton. In 1861 & 1871 census living in Lambeth, Surrey, as the Niece of Mary Hall, b. c. 1813, Rinchel, Suffolk. Not in 1881 census. She may, or may not, be the Caroline Chapman shown in the 1891 census in Lambeth, Surrey, wife of William Chapman who was b. c. 1850, Kentish Town, London; no children shown. They later appear in the 1901 census in Lambeth, London; no children shown.
    3. Jane Elizabeth Prentice, bap. 29 Aug 1852, Flowton (per Steve Harvey, email, 29 Jun 2003). At home in 1861. In 1871 census as a Servant in Poplar, London. Not in 1881 and later census.
    4. (Omitted. We had originally listed Jane Rebecca Prentice, but she is now shown as a daughter of Sarah Ann Prentice, #15.)

  4. Susan Prentice, b. 9 Apr 1821, Flowton and d. 13 Jun 1888 East London; m. 4 April 1851 Ipswich William Bloomfield Scruton. Not in 1861 and later census.
  5. David Prentice, b. 28 Jun 1824, Flowton. . . . . . . . . . . . . . [11]
  6. Emma Prentice, bap. 10 Sept 1826, Flowton; d. Dec 1863.
  7. Caroline Prentice, bap. 7 Sept 1827, Flowton and bur. there 9 May 1846.
  8. Amelia Prentice, b. 5 July 1831, Flowton. She m. Charles Cheston on 10 Dec 1859, Flowton. Witnesses were Mary Ann Prentice and James Cook. Charles was a Blacksmith from Ipswich, Suffolk at the time of their marriage.
  9. James Prentice, bap. 21 Dec 1834. Flowton and was bur. there 18 Jan 1835.

7. James Prentice, bap. 15 Jan 1804 and was bur. 25 May 1866 in Bildeston, Suffolk. He m. Elizabeth Caley on 25 Sep 1830 in Willisham, Suffolk. She was b. c. 1806 in Barking, Suffolk and was bur. 16 Sep 1867 in Bildeston. Children (Steve Harvey, email, 20 & 29 Jun 2003):

  1. Henry Prentice, b. c. 1830, Great Bricett, Suffolk and bur. 31 May 1839, Bildeston.
  2. James Prentice, bap 27 Jan 1833, Great Bricett. Living at home in 1851 census. He does not appear in the 1881 census.
  3. Robert Prentice, bap. 5 Mar 1837, Bildeston, Suffolk. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [7.1]
  4. David Prentice, b. c. 1838, Bildeston, Suffolk. . . . . . . [12]
  5. Mary Ann Prentice, bap. 7 May 1843, Bildeston, Suffolk.
  6. Henry Prentice, bap. 12 Feb 1846, Bildeston and/or 14 Jul 1847, Bildeston, Suffolk (perhaps the 1st one didn't "take"). In the 1881 census he is shown as a Journeyman Butcher living on London Road, Kingston On Thames, Surrey, with his wife, Mary A.
  7. John Prentice, b. 1847, Bildeston, Suffolk and d. there 1881. . . . [13]

7.1 Robert Prentice was b. c. 1835 and bap. 5 Mar 1837, Bildeston, Suffolk, and d. before 1889 and is not shown with his wife in the 1881 census. At home in 1851 census.

He appears in the 1871 census in Tottenham, Middlesex, with his wife and family. At the time of his death he was an Oil Cloth Maker. Neither Robert nor his daughter, Elizabeth, appear in the 1881 census.

One of our correspondents, Kate Haushalter, of Toronto, Canada, told us what an Oil Clother Maker was, something which would have been common knowledge to earlier generations of our Prentice ancestors.

Floor Cloths were an early form of floor carpeting and apparently is still used in some areas today. A "Floor Cloth Painter" and "Oil Cloth Painter" were one and the same. Oil paint was the main form of paint so the terms were quite inter-changeable, unlike today when many floor cloths are done in latex or acylic paint.

Floor cloths were probably first made by maritime wives who used the heavy-duty cloth from ruined sails, then painted and decorated it for flooring. It was very durable. The technique was adapted and other heavy canvas was also used to make decorated floor coverings and Floor Cloths. These were used in many homes of all economic laevels and were popularized along with faux finishes.

The website at "Allens Artist Canvas" sets out the following brief history of floor cloth:

    The use of floor cloths as painted decorative floor coverings began in early eighteenth-century Britain. Also known as oylcloth, painted carpet, common carpet, or summer floor mats, floor cloths were initially used by the wealthy to decorate entryways, hallways and dining rooms. Some were also used under dining tables to protect more expensive carpets from spills. They began to be used in America as early as the Revolutionary War. Initially most were imported from England, but soon there were domestic makers as well and the art form remained popular until around 1860 with the advent of linoleum. There was a revival in the 1950's through the popularization of authentic American crafts and the restoration of vintage homes.

The foregoing website contains a listing of books on the subject that are in print and available for purchase.

Robert Prentice m. Emily, b. c. 1845, London, Middlesex. Children:

  1. Emily Prentice, b. c. 1866, Tottenham, Middlesex. 1871 and 1881 at home. 1891 not home.
  2. Maria Prentice, b. c. 1868, Tottenham, Middlesex. 1871 and 1881 at home. 1891 not home.
  3. Elizabeth Prentice, b. c. 1871, Tottenham, Middlesex.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [7.2]
  4. James Prentice, b. c. 1874, Tottenham, Middlesex. 1881 and 1891 at home. Not in 1901 census.
  5. Annie L. Prentice, b. c. 1876, Homerton. 1881and 1891 at home.
  6. William R. Prentice, b. c. 1880, Homerton. 1881 and 1891 at home. Not in 1901 census.

7.2. Elizabeth Prentice, b. c. 1871 , Tottenham, Middlesex, England per the 1891 census in Hackney, London. She appears with her husband and children in the 1901 census in Hackney, London.

She m. John Parrish on 21 Apr 1889 at St. Augustine's Church, South Hackney, London. She was b. 1868. In 1889, John Parrish's occupation was that of a French Polisher living at 16 Cowdry St., South Hackney, London. Elizabeth and John appear in the 1891 census in Hackney, London, where he was still a French Polisher.

Children of Elizabeth and John:

  1. Lily Parish, b. c. 1892, Hackney, London. 1901 at home.
  2. William "Willie" Parish, b. c. 1894, Hackney, London. 1901 at home.
  3. Alfred Parish, b. c. 1895, Hackney, London. 1901 at home.
  4. Robert Parish, b. c. 1898, Hackney, London. 1901 at home.
  5. Elizabeth Parish, b. c. 1900, Hackney, London. 1901 at home.

8. Robert Prentice, b. 25 Oct 1805, Gt. Bricett and bap. 2 Jun 1811 (per Steve Harvey, above). He d. Sept 1881. He m. Elizabeth/Eliza who was b. c. 1806 in Baylham, Suffolk. He appears in the 1881 census living in a cottage in Offton, Suffolk with a servant. His wife was apparently then deceased. Children (per Steve Harvey, email, 29 Jun 2003):

  1. Robert Prentice, chr. 22 Dec 1833. . . . . . . . [14]
  2. Hannah Prentice, bap. 11 Jan 1846, Offton, Suffolk
  3. James Prentice, b. 1839, Offton, Suffolk.
  4. Sarah Ann Prentice, b. 1837, Ringshall,Suffolk. . . . . . [15]
  5. Sophia Prentice, b. 1842, Offton, Suffolk. . . . . . . . [16]
  6. Joseph Prentice, bap. 6 Dec 1844, Offton, Suffolk.
  7. Rebecca Prentice, bap. 11 Dec 1848, Flowton, Suffolk.

9. Henry Prentice, b. 28 May 1809, Great Bricett, Suffolk, bap there 2 Jun 1811 and d. 1886, Lambeth, widower. He appears in the 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871 census in Offton With Little Bricett, Suffolk, with his wife and family. Shown in 1881 census as a widower lodging with William and Croline Chapman, 100 Effra Parade, Lambeth, Surrey.

He m. Hannah Clark (called Anna in 1841 census) on 18 Nov 1832 in Great Bricett. Witnesses were John and Sarah Prentice and James Blomfield. Hannah/Anna was b. c. 1802 in Nedging, Suffolk. Children (per Steve Harvey, email, 29 Jun 2003):

  1. James Prentice, bap. 22 Dec 1833, Offton Cum Bricett Parva, Suffolk. He m. Mary Anne Farthing on 8 Nov 1857 in Offton, dau. of William Farthing. Marriage wignesses were Robert James and James(?) Prentice. Mary was b. c. 1838, Somersham, Suffolk. In 1881 and 1891 they lived in Bramford, Suffolk, where he was an Agricultural Labourer. Children:
    1. (perhaps) Henry Prentice, b. c. 1860, Offton. He appears in the 1861 census as the son of James and "Anna" Prentice. He appears in the 1901 census in St. Clement, Suffolk, with his wife, Georgina . L., and children:
      1. James H. Prentice, b. c. 1888, Ipswich, Suffolk. At home in 1901.
      2. Ada M. Prentice, b. c. 1889, Ipswich, Suffolk. At home in 1901.

    2. John Prentice, b. c. 1871, Offton. At home in Bramford in 1891.
    3. Mary A. Prentice, b. c. 1877, Offton, Suffolk. At home in Bramford in 1891 and 1901.

  2. Jane Prentice, b. c. 1835 and bap. 6 Oct 1839, Offton. Not home in 1851.

  3. Mary Prentice, b. c. 1837 and bap. 6 Oct 1839, Offton. She m. Richard Allaby on 26 May 1863, Offton, son of Richard Allaby. Marriage witnesses were John Clarke and Anna Prentice. He was b. c. 1834 in Danhall, Cheshire. In 1881 they lived at 1 Chipping Hill Terrace, Witham, Essex, where he was a Railway Porter. Children:
    1. Richard Henry Allaby, b. c. 1864, Witham, Essex. At home in 1881.
    2. Elizabeth Allaby, b. c. 1868, Witham, Essex.
    3. William Allaby, b. c. 1870, Withham, Essex.
    4. Annie Allaby, b. c. 1873, Witham,Essex.
    5. Ellen Allaby, b. c. 1875, Witham, Essex.

  4. Sarah Prentice, bap. 20 Apr 1845, Offton. At home in Offton in 1851.

Living with John's family in 1851 was a Granddaughter, Eliza Stephenson, b. c. 1841, Offton. She may, or may not, be Jane's daughter.

10. (Omitted)

11. David Prentice, bap. 6 Jun 1824, Flowton. He was an Ag Lab in 1851 in Flowton but a Coal Porter when he died in December 1893. m. Mary Ann Hollingshed on 29 Jul 1851, Flowton. Witnesses were John Dedman and Amelia Prentice. Mary Ann was b. 1827 in Lambeth, Surrey but at the time of her marriages was called "a spinster from Hadleigh". She d. March 1891. He and his wife appear in the 1881 Hadleigh census living on George Street, a Coal Porter. Children:

  1. Mary Ann Hollingshead Prentice, bap. 28 Mar 1852 Flowton; m. Dec 1878 Cosford district but the name of her husband is not yet known.
  2. Eliza Hollingshed Prentice, b. 21 Dec 1853 Hadleigh, Suffolk; d. Mar 1859
  3. Rosa Hollingshed Prentice, b. 2 Dec 1855, Hadleigh, Suffolk; d. Dec 1876
  4. Emma Maria Hollingshed Prentice, b. 5 July 1857, Hadleigh and d. 1879. She m. Jun 1879, Cosford district, but the name of her husband is not yet known.
  5. David Hollingshed Prentice, b. 17 Jun 1859, Hadleigh, Suffolk and d. Jun 1860
  6. David Hollingshed Prentice, chr. 31 Mar 1861, Hadleigh, Suffolk. Not in 1881 census.
  7. Lucy Prentice, b. Sept 1862, Hadleigh, Suffolk; d. Dec 1876
  8. Frederick Hollingshed Prentice, b. 9 Aug 1863, Hadleigh, Suffolk; d. before 1871
  9. John H. Prentice, b. 25 April 1866, Hadleigh, Suffolk; m. 1888 Cosford
  10. Elizabeth "Lizzy" Flora Hollingshed Prentice, b. 6 Mar 1870, Hadleigh, Suffolk. Living at home in 1881.
  11. Edith Ruth Hollingshed Prentice, b. 6 Mar 1870, Hadleigh, Suffolk. Living at home in 1881.

12. David Prentice, b. c. 1838, Bildeston, Suffolk and was bap. there 14 Jul 1839. He m. Elizabeth Butcher on 23 May 1864, Bildeston. Witnesses were James Butcher, SarahAnn Butcher and Fanny Elizabeth Caley. Elizabeth was b. c. 1842 in Halesworth, Suffolk, dau. of James Butcher. In 1881 they lived at at No. 30 Upper Barclay Street, Ipswich (St. Margaret), Suffolk. Children:

  1. Harry Prentice, b. c. 1865, Ipswich. At home, unmarried in 1881 and a Grocer's Porter.
  2. Arthur Prentice, b. c. 1871, Ipswich.

13. John Prentice, bap. 14 Jul 1847, Bildeston, Suffolk and bur St. Mary Magdalene, Bildeston on 28 May 1881.

He m. Ann Maria Proctor on 9 Nov 1867 in Hitcham, Suffolk, daughter of Peter Proctor and Charlotte Pett. Witnesses to the wedding were John Andrews and Harriet Andrews. Ann was b. 6 Dec 1849 in Hitcham, Suffolk and bap. there 28 Apr 1850. In the 1881 census he was called a Gentleman's Servant and lived with his family on Duke St., Bildeston, Suffolk. Children:

  1. Albert Richard Prentice, b. 1868, Bildeston, Suffolk. . . . . . . [17]
  2. John Frederic Prentice, b. 1870, Bildeston, Suffolk. . . . . . . . . [18]

After John d. in 1881,

Ann m. 2nd George Robert Gosling on 2 Jan 1881 at St. Mary Magdalene, Bildeston. George was then 25 year old bachelor and a tailor, son of Thomas Gosling a gardner. Witnesses were Charles Proctor(?) and Clara Gosling, George's sister. Children of John and Ann were:

14. Robert Prentice, bap.. 22 Dec 1833, Offton Cum Bricett Parva, Suffolk (per IGI). He appears in the 1881 Often census as an Agricultural Labourer with his wife and family. In 1891 census in Willisham, Suffolk.

He m. Sophia Simpson on 25 Dec 1855 in Offton, dau. of John Simpson. Wedding witnesses were Joseph Fayers and Sophia Prentice. Sophia was b. c. 1836 in Offton. Children:

  1. Alice Sophia Prentice, bap. 13 Oct 1861, Offton.
  2. Jane Maria Prentice, bap. 13 Oct 1861, Offton. At home in 1881. She m. Mr. Howe and in the 1901 Offton census is shown living with her parents but without her husband.
  3. Anne Eliza Prentice, bap. 6 Mar 1864, Offton Cum Bricett Parva, Suffolk (per IGI).
  4. Hannah Prentice, bap. 30 Sep 1866, Offton Cum Bricett Parva, Suffolk (per IGI). She may be the same person as Ann Prentice shown in the 1891 Willisham, Suffolk, as b. c. 1867 in Offton and living at home in Willisham.
  5. Robert Prentice, b. c. 1869, Offton.
  6. James Prentice, bap. 23 Jul 1871, Offton.
  7. Frederick, bap. 12 Oct 1873, Offton.
  8. Herbert Prentice, b. c. 1874, Offton. At home in Willisham in 1891 census. He may, or may not, be the Herbert Prentice shown in the 1901 census in Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk as b. c. 1877 and without a wife or children.
  9. Sarah Ellen Prentice, bap. 9 Jan 1876, Offton.
  10. Emma Prentice, b. c. 1877, Offton or Somersham, Suffolk.

Living with Robert's family in the 1891 and 1901 census was a grandson, William Prentice, b. c. 1890, Ipswich, Suffolk. Also living with them in 1891 and 1901 was a nephew, Frederick Simpson, b. c. 1851, Oxton, Suffolk.

15. Sarah Ann Prentice was bap. 25 Jun 1837 in Ringshall, Suffolk. She married (2) William Bradbrook 8 Oct 1859 in Semer, Suffolk (IGI). He was born c. 1832 in Hadleigh, Suffolk. In 1881 they lived at Mill House, Semer, Suffolk, where he is called "Gardiner Artizan". Child of Sarah Ann Prentice:

  1. Jane Rebecca Prentice, b. 1857, Offton, Suffolk. . . . . . . . [19]

16. Sophia Prentice, bap. 15 May 1842, Offton, Suffolk. She married Walter Minns on 21 Oct 1860 in Offton, Suffolk, son of John Minns. Marriage witnesses were William Bradbrick and Sarah Bradbrick. Walter was born c. 1840 in Naughton, Suffolk. In the 1881 census he was an Agricultural Labourer living in Willisham, Suffolk. Children:

  1. John R. Minns, b. c. 1861, Offton, Suffolk.
  2. Lillah Minns, b. c. 1864, Offton, Suffolk.
  3. Arthur Minns, b. c. 1866, Willisham, Suffolk.
  4. Mary Minns, b. c. 1868, Great Bricett, Suffolk.
  5. William Minns, b. c. 1870, Willisham, Suffolk.
  6. Elizabeth Minns, b. c. 1873, Willisham, Suffolk.
  7. Edgar Minns, b. c. 1874, Willisham, Suffolk.
  8. Frank Minns, b. c. 1876, Willisham, Suffolk.
  9. Rebecca Minns, b. c. 1878, Willisham, Suffolk.
  10. Ellen S. Minns, b. c. 1881, Willisham, Suffolk.

17. Albert Richard Prentice, bap. 8 Nov 1868, Bildeston, Suffolk and d. 1901. He married Elizabetth Bugg on 10 Mar 1891 in Bildeston, dau. of samuel Bugg and Eliza Keeble. Marriage witnesses were George Robert Gosling and Clara Palmer. Elizabeth was bap 6 Mar 1865 in Monks Eleigh, Suffolk, and had an illegitimate son, Frederick George Bugg, before she m. Albert. In 1891 census they lived on Duke St., Bildeston where he was a Labourer. Children of Albert and Elizabeth:

  1. John Albert Prentice, bap 15 Nov 1891, Bildeston, Suffolk.
  2. James Charles Robert Prentice, bap. 20 Nov 1892, Bildeston, Suffolk
  3. Frank Prentice, b. c. 1895, Monks Eleigh, Suffolk. He may, or may not, be the Frank Prentice shown in WW I death records as Frank Prentice, Private, Suffolk Regiment, "A" Coy., 5th Bn., who d. at age 21 on 21 Aug 1915 and is called a "brother of Mr.J. Prentice, of Poney St., Milden, Bildeston, Ipswich." His memorial is found at Panel 46 and 47, Helles Memorial.
  4. Alfred Prentice, b. c. 1900. Monks Eleigh, Suffolk.

18. John Frederick Prentice, (aka Frederick John Prentice), bap. 30 Oct 1870, Bildeston, Suffolk. He married Esther Elmer in Sep 1894. Esther's birth was registered in the June quarter of 1873 at Cosford. She was the dau. of William Elmer and Maria Partridge (per Kay Stevens, email, 26 Oct 2003). In 1891 they lived on Hitcham St., in Bildeston where he was a Tailor and in 1901 in a Shop on High St., Bildeston where he was a Tailor employer at home. They had at least one son:

  1. Frederick William Prentice, b. 30 Mar 1897 and bap. at St. Mary Magdalene, Bildeston, Suffolk (per Kay Stevens, email, 26 Oct 2003).

19. Jane Rebecca Prentice, bap. 6 Dec 1857, Offton, Suffolk. Offton is a small town lying about halfway between Great Bricett and Somersham and about 3 miles SW of Needham Market. ( See map ) Child of Jane:

  1. William Prentice, bap. 17 Jul 1874, Semer and d. at age 12; bur. 29 Jul 1887, Semer. His mother is entered on the baptism record as Rebecca Prentice, a single woman from Semer.

Jane Rebecca Prentice m. Alfred Green on 25 Sep 1874, at All Saints' Church, Semer, Suffolk. Semer lies about 5 miles SW of Offton, and a short distance NW of Hadleigh. Alfred is the son of John Green and Phoebe Gosling. Wedding witnesses were William Bradbrook, George Elmer, Caroline Green and Mary Elmer. Alfred was bap. 21 May 1848 in Kersey, Suffolk. In 1881 he was a Groom and they lived on Rectory Hill, Semer. Children of Jane and Alfred (Ref: Key Stevens, email, 7 Jun 2003 and Steve Harvey, email, 29 Jun 2003):

  1. Frank Green, bap. 212 Jul 1875, Semer and bur. there on 29 Jul 1875. He is entered on the burial record as aged 3 months
  2. Ellen Green, bap. 15 Oct 1876, Semer, and bur. there. At home in 1881.
  3. Alice Green, bap. 17 Feb 1878, Semer, and bur. there. At home in 1881.
  4. Kate Green, b. c. 1880, Semer, and bur there. At home in 1881.
  5. Frederick Harry Green, bap. 28 Aug 1881, Semer, and bur there. At home in 1881.
  6. Bessie Elizabeth Green, bap. 20 May 1883, Semer, amd bur. there. At home in 1881.
  7. Maud Mary Green, bap. 25 Jan 1885, Semer, and bur. there. At home in 1881.
  8. Frank Green, bap, 16 Jan 1887, Semer, and bur. there. At home in 1881.
  9. Mabel Florence Green, bap. 16 Feb 1889, Semer, and bur. there. At home in 1881.
  10. Ethel Laura Green, b. c. 1891 and bur. there.

Correspondence: If you have any information about the folks mentioned in this article, ancestors or descendants, please send your information to us at the Prentice Newsletter. Be sure to give the full title and date of this article in the Subject line of the email.

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Fn. 1: We had suggested that Robert and Keziah may have had a son named James Prentice, b. c. 1811. However, we received an email dated 20 Jun 2003 from Steve Harvey who relates that he has examined the Great Bricett Parish Register that there apparently is no entry for any son of Robert and Keziah named James.

Steve's email also contains the following: "Children of James Prentice and Dinah Thorpe (married 28 Feb 1810, Great Bricett), again as taken from the baptism register, are as follows: 1811 James No baptism found. He may have been illegitimate...". Although clarification is needed, he seems to be indicating that church records identify the 1811 James as a member of the family of James Prentice and Dinah Thorpe, #5 in our article.

In further support of that view, Steve Harvey's later email of 11 Jul 2003 relates that he received an email from Ray Long pertaining to information Ray found on the marriage of James Prentice to Sarah, in the Suffolk Family History Society Marriage Index; that record shows that James was known as both Prentice ("alias Prentice") and Thorpe. That would appear to confirm that James was a child of James PRENTICE and Dinah THORPE.

Steve also notes that our article, based on an earlier email from Ian Prentice, said that the 1811 James, erroneously identified as the son of Robert and Keziah, married Ann Feker in 1823 and later Sarah Bugg. He points out that a marriage to Ann Feker would be surprising since James would have been only about 12 years of age in 1823. So, that leaves unanswered the identity of the James Prentice who m. 1st Ann Feker in 1823 in Willisham and 2nd Sarah Bugg, Willisham.


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